ROUND 2

[vic]

Sorry for making the thread Jamie forgive me please.

Anyway kind of annoyed at Constance blaming her failure on the fact that there are a lot of "Endure people" in this game. The only two people on her tribe associated with it are Samm and Taylor and Taylor wasn't even on her original tribe. 

She's really blind if she thinks that's what has outcasted her on the tribe.

[alex]

Soooo, who all played their idol?
I forgot Tribals don't really get posted no more.

[vic]

Everyone except Ashley on green. Just Constance on yellow.

[alex]

BARGAAL

I think from his last confessional it is VERY clear that Frank is completely clueless as to what is going on in the game. I like him a lot but he hasn't even realized EVERYONE got an idol, he acknowledges that people got multiple things from the QfF but he doesn't really seem up to par with EVERYONE else who knows about the multiple idols already. Other than that is anything going on in Bargaal? I'M BORED!

HADAR

You know Mikki isalive now, HEY THERE! And apparently she is in with the Ricky/Devon/Lexi trio which means that SaSi are definitely completely fucked and about to get voted out whenever Hadar loses. I also do like Ricky saying he wants to play with people who are gonna be a challenge though, mad respect. I wanna see Devon's take on the whole conversation fuck-up which is a HUGE rookie mistake I am rather shocked a veteran player like Ricky made. Thank God Devon said all nice things of Ricky on his public confessional... If it's not obvious by now I am 100% #teamDevon . Hadar is still my favorite tribe in general though.

MENDI

Christian surviving is beyond hilarious. This tribe is a hot fucking mess. And I love it. Jesse seems to be in full control with that one girl Casey who I still can't understand at all. I don't like his mannerisms though, like it seems so... fake? I don't know, he is a lovely guy but when he starts doing the whole "mmm gurl, you betta get to steppin' " charade is just way too much for me. 

Though I do agree with him that Ashley went home because she was a moron. If EVERYONE plays their idols, you play it too, obviously. 

Oh, wait, I forgot Keith is on this tribe. He seems smart, so I assume he is in a good position, but it's hard to tell because he does not post any confessionals, and no one in the tribe ever mentions him (Casey probably did, but I really could not tell even if she did). Also, can someone please explain to me why in the world is Gherman so cocky? Like... who are you?

SALAHLY

I do feel bad for Constance. I understand how frustrated she is, and how it could look from the place she is in. Obviously there is not a HUGE Endure pre-game. But it's easy for it to look that way. I LOVE Samm but I think that tribe was kinda easy for him since he was already friends with Allan and then he loved Mateuzs/Marta from the past seasons of CYS. And Taylor is easy to get too because he knows how she plays since he hosted her, so why wouldn't he bring her in? 

Anyways, Constance is super screwed which sucks but once she is gone I am kinda excited to see where things would go from there. Taylor is my least favorite, though I am super annoyed Ryan Giovanni posts mostly text confessionals, GET WITH THE PROGRAM BRO!

[#gamejohn]

In case people ever wonder why some of my thoughts seem disjointed I literally just write my thoughts as I'm watching the confessionals, so they very well often change as I learn more info.

Womp womp at losing Ashley and Vanessa. Honestly had I been playing with this twist I would have done exactly what Mendi did. It is round 1, trust nobody. You don't want to be the first person voted out. Sure you sacrifice your idol and now you're exposed, but at least you're not first boot unnecessarily like Ashley. Shame on her allies for not having her back though, they could have just lost a number for absolutely no reason. Vanessa leaving is a shame because it's just a loss of opportunity for so many on that tribe. The numbers in this game are so small and if you want any control you need to be careful not to completely set yourself up just to be a follower because you have no other option. I think a lot of people on Salahy are doing this, they're throwing away their opportunities. With this small of a tribe, if you're not number 1 or number 2 you're playing stupid. There's no guarantee for a quick merge, there's no guarantee for a tribe swap, so if you're not at the top wake the fuck up and do something about it before its too late.

Allan is in an interesting spot. He probably has the most power on the tribe, because he seems to be trusted by everyone. He is in that 1/2 spot that spoke of earlier on his tribe. He's comfortable, he doesn't need to rock the boat, his challenge is keeping it steady.

Can someone talk to Casey and ask her to just do confessionals without doing other stuff on the computer haha. I feel she always gets so distracted. I can't watch this, I guess she doesn't like Ashley so everything worked out for her. This tribe is a disaster but I love it because it's probably the most pure tribe this season in terms of who knows who pre-game. I think Casey/Jesse lucked out with last nights events, it bought them some time in this game.

The Christian and William rivalry is hilarious. Did they know each other before the game? Do they know each other well because the HATE IS REAL! Christian is a little cocky though in his video, like you don't the numbers just yet, but he makes a good point, Ashley's allies failed her. They should have told her to play her idol, they should have tipped her off, they just threw away a number and in a game where numbers are so important because the tribes are so small. That was a huge mistake. Great round for Christian though, must be awesome nullifying that many votes for yourself!

I'm watching my first Constance video. I think she's wrong about the pre-game alliance, but she's 100% right with her frustrations of pre-game relationships influencing her game. And honestly she's kind of right about what she's saying this tribe is SO influenced by pre-game bonds and knowledge. Throwing out stuff about Constance's reputation, using that as a reason not to trust her. I think she uses "pre-made alliances" incorrectly because I doubt they were pre-made, but they were 100% influenced by pre-existing relationships. She got a bad tribe draw, literally with someone who has met two of them in person, but at least she got her moment when she idoled herself.

Honestly though if Salahy boots Constance next, I think their tribe is so stupid. As I said earlier, if you're not in those top 2 spots, you are playing like an idiot if you're not trying to overthrow. Losing numbers makes flipping harder. If you can't flip someone at 6, you won't be able to flip someone at 5. Everyone still has their idols, except Constance, she is a sitting duck. So what would be a great plan? IDOL CONSTANCE. She is literally a free agent, you would need literally 1 vote to get whoever you want out. Take out someone crucial like Samm or Allan and BAM, game is changed, status quo is rocked and you have some ability to move around and climb the totem pole. Will this happen? Probably not because this tribe likely has the most complacent players, or they're just absolutely oblivious to their spot in the game.

Watching Frank's confessional is tough because he just seems like he's a step behind and he's also aware of it. He's clearly on the outs but it doesn't seem to bother him because he's so comfortable with Hugo on the tribe. If Hugo doesn't step up his game he's going to become my least favourite because I hate inactives, and this twist will allow Hugo to sneak by even though he sucks. I just hope he doesn't show up and like self-votes out, or maybe just never realizes he has an idol. Frank needs to step it up though, he is already behind. He needs to get his shit together.

Also it's interesting that Frank has no idea about everyone has the idols, but thinks everyone else could have SOMETHING. I'm surprised that's not more of a prevalent theory that went around, I guess a lot of people found out about the idols really quick, but that would also be my first line of thought too, I would think everyone got something, not necessarily an idol, but maybe a power.

I'm midway through Molly's first confessional, and I'm already confused why she considers Tyler telling her and her group about Samm/Mateusz/Allan being on call together shady. She already knew about it, but I would see it more as Tyler being open with them and being honest with her. He is definitely being shady with Samm, but not Molly. Molly is going through the post-Endure 2 actual gameplay. Jordan dealt with it when he played Conquest because apparently I guess you guys talked ALL THE TIME and that's not normal. I mean in games you don't never talk, but sometimes people are chill. Molly is not chill, clearly from confessional, I would say Molly has no chill. I don't like Molly in this game. I think that's ok to admit because she has so many other fans that she'll get a ton of praise and love, but I really don't think she's given her tribe a chance. I think she already has her mind made up on who she wants to work with and they're not the people she's with. I hope she starts to be a little more open minded in the next few rounds and calms down a bit and puts in the effort to get to know her tribe. She's obviously putting in some effort, just sometimes people need more work and its a bit early to be freaking out about them. You can't rule out 5 people entirely in this game, you just can't.

Yes at Ricky liking Mikki. Mikki is awesome, so I'm really happy she is integrating well. Ricky is so smart though, because he got Lexi to confront Simon/Saxon on this stuff. If they felt anyway pressured or offended by it, it would have all gone on Lexi, really good gameplay. I also like that Ricky also pointed out that clearly Simon and Saxon were also lying to each other. Honestly Ricky's best bet is to probably just hope he keeps winning because he's solid on this tribe with everyone. HAHA that's funny about Ricky sending that to Devon, that's hilarious. I actually like Ricky this season, it's great seeing him build the bonds with brand new people, even though they're so much younger. It would have been easy for him to dwell on the age difference but he powered through. I think he's going to go really far and is playing really well.

Thank god for Ryan Gio waking about and making an alliance with Taylor/Mateusz. The problem is, Ryan can change at the drop of a hat. Ryan's confessionals are so over the top haha. If this alliance happens it would be a huge shift of momentum. I think he's making a mistaking ruling out Constance. "Because me and Jesse bonded over cast release" -- you can just say you're friends pre-game, haha, that political answer tho. Ryan just wanting to be in the middle and average, come on man, you want to get to those swaps and merge, if you just play the middle it's going to get you eventually. Oh man here it is, the Allan fear. I like hearing this, I like that Ryan is aware of this. Let that jealousy fuel you Ryan! I like this! (I have to clarify before being attacked by mobs, I really like Allan, met him irl, but as I viewer I really like big moves even more #sorrynotsorry)

Samm talking about splitting the vote on Ryan? That would have been amazing to watch because Ryan would have flipped the fuck out haha. He should have done it though, because Ryan is way shadier, that was a mistake. If he was close with Vanessa, he should have just gone with it. If Samm wants to be a villain cool, but I don't like the whole talk about him bullying Constance. That's so unnecessary, I guess taking the higher road isn't an option? You could literally just ignore her. Maybe it was just heat of the moment. It probably was. I think it's definitely to his benefit to get rid of Constance this round, but really only his. 

Oh man another wall of text done, excited to see who goes next. Still rooting for Hadar hoping Saxon and Simon can continue to scrape by. Also hoping for Bargaal to win for Frank and Tyler. Hopefully the game continues to shift and change as people get closer and have more time to realize what the twist is. Should even out the playing field and give the newer players more of a fighting chance.

[Tyler Poirier]

Sad to see Ashley go this way because I think as a relatively new player, an early boot could dampen spirits and discourage her from playing future games. I'm hoping that won't be the case, I think her exit was more a testament to her not having very much experience in games with these kinds of complicated twists. Not playing an idol was an unfortunate mistake on her part and I think that decision was very much part of her learning curve. Hopefully she'll learn from this mistake and play more games in the future!

I agree with John Wilson about Salahly, I feel like that tribe right now has a lot of people who are playing more of the follower, and that would be fine except that there's only six of them. It was sad that Vanessa left over Constance only because I think Constance will be more likely to take a follower approach to try and survive than Vanessa. I'm hoping Taylor arriving will maybe change this a little bit.

Sorry this is kind of just a quick blurb about the two voted off, I'll try to do something more in depth tomorrow

[#gamejohn]

OH MAN, flip flop round Bargaal and Hadar going to Tribal Council. I keep wanting to call them Bergdal (Serial reference) and Hodor (GoT reference), but alas I will try my best to remember their names. Love that Salahy especially won Immunity because it gives them a couple days to stew and get over the unnecessary bitterness of the last round and really give Constance a chance to be scooped up, which someone of them should be doing.

Allan's snippet of him talking to Constance in his confessional shows just how good this guy is. Ryan keep on your hunt you're on the right track. Allan is definitely the player the beat. He is above par strategically when compared to Samm, but a lot more even-keeled and not making things too person. He is the real threat on this tribe but I wonder how many people actually realize that.

Oh man a 5 minute Casey confessional! Casey's doing a great job, sound like her and Jesse are in the power position on this tribe. Casey just needs to keep up her social game, she already has said she hasn't talked to Ryan Ger. For some reason she doesn't talk to people who she doesn't want to work with. She needs to work on that because it could get her in trouble.

Say what you want about her but Constance's confessional is on point.

Mateusz had an interesting confessional, because he's decided to rule out working with Constance, but he kind of needs her. If Ryan leaks that Samm was going to vote for him he will go from "peacemaker" Mateusz to "firestarter" Mateusz. They're making a mistake alienating Constance for purely personal reasons and I think Taylor is the driving force for it. Saying "Constance deserved to go" is a bit much, she played her idol, you should have told Vanessa to play her idol if you wanted her to stay, you even know Constance was playing hers. They could have gotten a plan together to keep Vanessa, so all this talk is just a bit much about how badly they wanted to keep her. CLEARLY NOT THAT BADLY! Mateusz is likeable as hell, but he's a follower, I hope he eventually steps up but I don't think he will.

Mikki voting out Saxon again, LOL. Mikki plays a good game, she's a great social player, she gets into alliances and climbs the hierarchy quick just because of how personable she is. Saxon needs to play his idol, I've said all pre-game that if he doesn't play his idol the first TC he goes to he is stupid. I think both Simon and Saxon should play it, especially given certain moments they've had with their tribe. They know they were outted for lying, they know that could lead to distrust, just play it safe, use the idol!

Oh man Simon turning on Saxon, brutal. This hurts, but he's right Saxon is totally on the outs, but Simon is not aware at all that he's also on the outs. I wonder who the decoy vote will be, because you know someone will throw a stray vote. I'm watching Ricky's confessional next so I'm sure he'll talk about it. HAHA at the flirting, oh poor Saxon, PLAY YOUR IDOL!

Glad Lexi is getting some shade for not showing up to the challenge. It's a testament to her social ability that she's safe even though she didn't show up. I wonder how long she'll get a free pass though, she's definitely not an alpha player in this game. Ricky is like the coach of a little league baseball team with this bunch. They are junior, they have no idea what they are doing, so I'm surprised he's not more frustrated. I would be very frustrated, haha. Ricky getting Simon on board is huge and it could very well be the downfall of Simon. Ah so Lexi is the decoy, very interesting, I wonder how she reacts to that. It could have long term implications depending on how long she lasts, but she could also just not care because she didn't even show up for the challenge.

[VIPW jamie]

Constance's confessional is like half on point. She is right in the fact that once she's gone someone who missed the opportunity to scoop her up is gonna get burned BUT people have tried to reach out to her so the other half to her confessional is a bit delusional. Allan has tried a few times to reach out and talk to her but she has like shut him down and goes on about pregame "alliances" . She is playing the victim card a little and it's annoying because she does have somewhat of a grasp on what's going to happen. I'll admit I didn't watch the entire 14min basically rant about how everyone is out to get her and all that but watching like over 5mins of it that's all it was. If she stays in this game she's just going to be a broken record with complaints about pregame relationships. She should at least try to make people see that they are next after she leaves and just cut the victim crap because that's not going to win her any favours.

[Host Brandon]

Yeah Constance didn't show up for the challenge, and instead of talking to people, she just ignores what they say and writes "." every 15 minutes. She is being super annoying about it and won't even TRY to talk. Like I get that she's mad things aren't going her way, but don't bitch about people missing opportunities when she is missing every single opportunity she possibly has.

[elise]

I'm scared for Allan because after 2 rounds he's the only one of Brandon's three winner picks left. CAN HE BREAK THE CURSE?

[#gamejohn]

No round 3 yet, so I'll end off my round 2 opinions in here. THIS ROUND WAS AWESOME!

Saxon leaving sucks for me, he's a great kid, he's just all over the place. What I love is nobody used their idols so this tribe will continue to be a bit of a paranoid mess. I'm surprised Ricky didn't at least try to get Simon to play his just so it got exposed. It would have made the next round a lot easier for him, but we'll see what happens.

I'm in the minority on this one I know but I really liked Molly leaving. I'm a HUGE Frank friends, I've known him for maybe two years now and remember talking him into playing Conquest and entering the Skype game realm, so I am so happy to see him be part of such a big move and this was a BIG MOVE! Does losing Molly so early in this game suck? Yes, definitely, she had the potential to be a big villain in this game, was definitely setting up to betray her tribe the minute a swap hit, was dynamic and a huge personality. But I LOVE BIG MOVES AND THIS WAS AMAZING! I have to give a shout out to Dalton and Ethan as much as people will try to downplay this as "just targeting Endure" they felt she was flaky and they wanted to be in the top spots of the tribe. And you know what, THEY WERE RIGHT! She had her list of fakes, but she was probably the biggest fake on her tribe, she didn't trust any of them and made a TON of mistakes. It was super risky pulling this off, but I do think it was for the best because let's be real long term Molly was not going to be loyal to these guys. 

Hugo being shocked by the end of TC was hilarious though, and Frank is living in a bit of delusion that he pulled off this huge play himself, but this tribe went from boring to amazing in a day. I love that! Also, it sucks Tyler was on the outs and he probably feels shitty about it, but it was actually probably for the best. The person Molly thought was the shadiest ended up being the most loyal, and even though he might not see it now, this is good for him because he'll get the chance to build allies that will actually have his back.

Two great rounds down, hopefully more to come!