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Post by VIPW jamie on Jan 7, 2016 20:53:02 GMT
making this bcz i fucking feel like it. sue me
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Post by Host Brandon on Jan 7, 2016 21:35:04 GMT
Cause the hosts sucks!!
So after a couple days of talking here is what I'm seeing...
Saxon still hates mikki for voting him out of conquest. Him, Ricky and Simon have an alliance in which they talked shit about mikki. I don't like that group of three.. Sick!!
Taylor is actually impressing me with her social game! She immediately made an alliance with mateusZ. Best alliance ever!
Molly is a queen and she is easily going to be a force to be reckoned with this season. Her and Allan will be the kingpins on their side.
Mateusz is going to be fine for a few rounds simply because of how awesome he is. He's hilarious! I can see Tyler doing really well this season because of the passion he has to do well. He also has the social skills. He just ant be afraid. He's the newbie to watch!!
My early picks for first boots are Vanessa and Mikki.
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Post by stephen on Jan 7, 2016 21:44:16 GMT
"Saxon still hates mikki for voting him out of conquest. Him, Ricky and Simon have an alliance in which they talked shit about mikki." okay but like there were literally 8 of us that voted him out? Leave Mikki alone jfc
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Post by richie on Jan 8, 2016 0:03:21 GMT
Mikki no! Go to work!
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Post by Patrick H on Jan 8, 2016 4:40:47 GMT
Here is an update on the Alliance Chats that production has been added to through the first day of the game:
JAMS - Dalton/Ryan Giovanni/Molly/Tyler Endure - Molly/Samm/Taylor (duh) Patrick's Favourites - Taylor/Tyler (I didn't name it...but it's not wrong) Burgers Alliance - Mateusz/Taylor The Real Girls - Molly/Taylor TBD - Samm/Mateusz/Allan
Coincidentally, all of these come from the same civilization. It's pretty obvious Molly, Taylor, and Tyler are playing the social game HARD. Hopefully it doesn't screw them...I think they're all in pretty safe positions as of now, given that there has been some limited activity from Hugo and Vanessa. The Ethiopian civilization hasn't made any formal alliance chats yet, but it seems that Ricky/Saxon/Simon are a tight 3 (and they know they are on a tribe with one another after the split). Their civilization as a whole seems to be taking some time to warm up.
On a side note, it looks like Taylor will be the first vote. She is volunteering, and assuming that it will keep her safe through the first elimination. On the other side, Mikki and Saxon are both volunteering. Saxon keeps wavering though, so bets are it will be Mikki.
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Post by notstephen on Jan 8, 2016 6:00:09 GMT
So I didn't really do any cast assessments, mainly because I knew most of the cast already. So it's time for me to begin to reclaim my rightful spot as "top prediction righter" amirite Brandon Clark or amirite?
I guess as a member of the Endure family, I'm most intrigued to see how the seven with Endure affiliation play. So far I'm seeing what I expected from them. Most of them are swearing off Endure in their confessionals and are already aware of one another and how they play. Samm wanting to get Molly out breaks my heart -- even though I'm spared that nightmare since they're on different tribes yeeee! The two I'm most impressed with from the whole Endure community or w/e is Keith and Taylor for some reason. I don't have much to go off on about Keith but it seems like he's willing to play with a completely open mind and work with whoever will benefit him, whether it be past ties or not. Samm and Ricky may be seen as the two who are most prominent in every community (at least this is what I'd see if I were in the game), but Keith has himself a lot of networking possibilities, and I can really see him play them to his advantage if he needs to. On the other hand, he has a lot of opportunity to show loyalty to people he doesn't know by cutting them early. Keith (and Samm) have a ton of leeway to be successful in this game. I feel since Keith has a "lower reputation" than Samm does, he has the potential to pull it off, whereas Samm may just wind up an early boot since he's more well known :/.
TAYLOR. Okay. Thing about Taylor. She does not assert herself in social situations. She knows this, too; it comes to no surprise. So the fact that she's already slowly building alliances makes me insanely proud! Taylor is a great competitor, and she's not stupid -- she just lacks the ability to jump the gun and make things happen. Luckily for her, this cast is helping her make things happen and I think it's going to bring out the best in her. Of course I love the Burgers alliance, and of course I love Taylor/Molly together. The main thing I want to talk about in regards to Taylor though, is the fact that out of the seven -- I don't think ANYONE has said they don't trust/don't think they can work with Taylor. Nobody has written her off if the time came to work with her in the game -- which is interesting.
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Post by notstephen on Jan 8, 2016 6:11:20 GMT
For non-Endure stuffs now.
I've heard a TON about Allan from friends, and I'm excited to watch him play. I've been waiting for his confessionals like a hawk and they haven't disappointed. I LOVE his confessionals, they're hilarious and insightful. The thing I really like about Allan's game is he's trying to make legitimate connections with the people in his civilization, and eventually his tribe. Whether age plays a factor or not is to be seen, but I appreciate the effort he's giving in his confessionals to shed insight as well as just be fucking awesome.
Everyone loves Mateusz. I love Mateusz. He is star. Why doesn't he have his own show? The fact that everyone (ALMOST EVERYONE I'LL GET TO ETHAN IN A SECOND) loves Mateusz is a great thing for his game, in this tribal stage I can see everyone getting on everyone's nerves VERY easily, if Mateusz can keep being himself and making people laugh he'll solidify himself a spot in the game for a long time.
Ethan has such a closed mind that his game is already over. No offense to Ethan, but spending six minutes talking about how a call is "awkward", and how he "knows" how Polish people are and whatnot... k fam cool. If a call is awkward, try to not make it awkward instead of complaining about it. The bitch cutting him off and showing her license plate is the funniest fucking thing I've seen though.
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Post by danielle on Jan 8, 2016 6:16:01 GMT
I haven't really talked a lot about my favorites but I'm really rooting for Jesse/Simon/Dalton/Molly. I have played games with a few of them and gotten quite close to Jesse, Simon and Dalton. Besides being their friends, I know that they have a strong social game and have a great strategic game as well. I'm hoping that Jesse doesn't screw himself over like he is currently doing in his other game. While being social, he makes deals with everyone and it's going to bite him in the ass but with this twist, I'm not so sure what is going to come of him.
Dalton is one hell of a player. I don't see him making many official alliances but just having deals with people so they won't say his name. His sweet Southern charm is what's going to save him in his game and he's honestly just a sweetheart but will be cutthroat in a second if need be. I think that's going to come into play later and is really going to show everyone that he cannot just be walked all over. The other two just seem to be very good social and hopefully do well in comps!
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Post by notstephen on Jan 8, 2016 6:19:01 GMT
Two more first impressions!
I'm a huge Vanessa fan. She's doing her homework, not all of her assumptions are correct, but she's preparing as best as she can for the game. She sounds like she's really going to do some work to figure out who her competition is and is willing to put in the work to make it far and make the connections vital to make it far in the game. I'm a Vanessa fan, I'm rooting for her.
I also love Tyler a lot! Maybe it's because it's sounding like he sounds like me in the first round of Endure 2 and is ride or die Molly, but he just seems genuine, is starting to make a couple good connections in the game and just looks to be overall enjoying it. I'm a fan of that.
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Post by notstephen on Jan 8, 2016 6:25:12 GMT
Civilization chat insight, any time someone doesn't post something for any amount of time, Constance posts this: Murder me. .
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Post by notstephen on Jan 8, 2016 6:37:06 GMT
Molly/Samm power duo why. Literally these two don't trust each other and have said it, and now it's just happened and I'm just like n0pe n0pe I don't like it. Molly telling Samm about some jam alliance or w/e why dkdfk;k;kdfsdsflkdf. EDIT I mean I understand why -- Molly and Samm will be seen as two "big" players, and it's best for them to use their current connections to skip the "get to know you part" and get into some solid thingy for the time being. I'm not sure if they'll need each other but at least are keeping a line of contact and information for the future of the game. HOWEVER I hope neither of them stick to it and try to get each other out if they have the opportunity to because I'd love that.
From Samm's confessionals, it sounds like Tyler is actually burning himself REALLY quickly by stirring up shit for a vote where nobody's being voted out. I don't know if this is Samm's thoughts alone or a consensus but I hope he tones it a bit back and makes connections rather than worrying about things like numbers at this point. If this is his first game, I completely understand because the first night I played I was *somewhat* like that until I realized I needed to scale it back a bit and relied on making friendships rather than allies and letting things happen organically. It could just be a case of a first game, or it could just be Samm's opinion. Tyler throwing Samm under the bus and spreading stuff isn't really good for Tyler's game, especially because Samm will make his opinion about Tyler known and anyone's looking for an alibi to make it further at any point... but this is still very early and with the twists and the course of the game that's about to come everything is still kinda up in air.
Okay I'm done for tonight. I dunno if any of this made sense. Let's hope it did!
<3 Molly <3 Taylor <3 Mateusz <3 Vanessa <3 Allan kiiinda <3 Tyler? Maybe?
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Post by tricks on Jan 8, 2016 7:53:48 GMT
mateusz is a star and we do not deserve him
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Post by #gamejohn on Jan 8, 2016 15:11:36 GMT
Guess I shouldn't just share my opinions in the chat.
Really liking the cast so far, I've seen the majority of the confessionals that were pre-"twist reveal" so let's go with some first impressions won't talk about everyone because I don't remember everyone, just the standouts.
I actually like Ethan. I didn't watch many of his confessionals, but I watched the one where he was driving and trash talking a lot of people. He's funny. Hope he does well.
Allan is amazing and hilarious. His confessional about his thoughts during the day were great. I hope he does really well, but I'm worried he may struggle with his tribe.
In Molly vs Frank I'm #teamfrank. In Molly vs Samm I'm #teamsamm. Not to hate on Molly or anything since I don't know her as a person, but I didn't feel she came off well in her first confessional. I didn't like that she just sidelined Frank after just getting to know him. Frank is weird as hell, but in the best kind of way. I hope she actually gives him a chance. Also I have loved Samm so far, how he stated just because he hosts you doesn't mean he's going to work with you. Having played with Samm in CYS before this is very familiar to his style of play. He has his own agenda but keeps it close. I hope he does well.
Ricky and Lexi teamed up.....shocker, who didn't see that one coming. But to be fair, Ricky is 100% right that his civilization is VERY young. They kind of naturally get pulled together being the older players. I think Ricky will do well with his group, he's already positioning himself with the right people and seems to already have Simon under his thumb. Which is disappointing because I thought they'd clash and that would have been interesting to see.
Am I the only one tired of how much everyone keeps talking about how boring the whole group is? Maybe talk then instead of bitch about how silent everything is.
Mateusz is a star, as everyone has already said, but I don't like the pairing of him and Taylor. Sure it's fun, but she's going to be an anchor for him. I just wish as such a great character he would have teamed up with someone of more substance strategically. I don't think this duo will go far and if they do it won't be because of their own doing.
Saxon hasn't posted anything that I've watched yet, but I liked how in Simon's confessional he got some positive talks. I've always liked Saxon, he is dedicated and plays hard, he just played a bit too hard in Conquest, but he's now VERY aware of it because nobody ever lets him forget it. I hope he keeps getting in people's good books.
Constance's period strategy to see who is around is funny, but you know what, good on her for actually wanting to talk to people. Say what you want about it potentially being annoying or "bad social game" but at least she's trying to do something social in a social game, instead of being one of the many to just talk about how boring and awkward things are.
I literally keep forgetting Casey is in this game.
This is all I remember from the cast just off the top of my head, so I'll just look over the confessional list to see if I have any quick opinions on anyone else.
Christian's pre-game chart is bad ass, but he needs to be careful about being too paranoid about that or it will bite him in the ass.
I also keep forgetting Keith is playing.
Hoping to see more from Tyler, he's my newbie pick.
That was more than I thought I'd say, good start so far, looking forward to the tribes being divided.
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Post by #gamejohn on Jan 8, 2016 17:28:07 GMT
Catching up on some more confessionals and my opinions are already changing.
I retract saying I liked Samm in the game, because I just watched his last confessional, he had me until that short one where he just bashed Tyler the whole time. Sorry someone who is new is coming into the game and actually trying to play it. "You don't know anybody, you have no cards to play." I mean come on Samm, sure Tyler might be playing hard, but you can't fault him for actually wanting to play. He doesn't have the benefit of being in a group where he has met multiple people in real life and knows the rest from other games. Is Tyler playing the game too hard? Yes. Is he making mistakes? Yes. But at least he's trying.
Also just so there's no confusion, I have no problem with Samm ranting against people, lord knows that's all I do in confessionals and in life, I just hate the mentality of just because someone doesn't know people that they should not be trying, which Samm implied with the "you have no cards to play" comment.
That being said, I already hate the Endure Block on that one civilization. I'm sorry I will always root for the underdog and people predictably teaming up and picking off the rest is something I'll always comment against. That being said I don't think it will survive past this first vote. Looking forward to the idols coming into play.
Taylor's volunteer strategy is interesting, especially since Vanessa had the same one. Taylor was in a really great spot on her tribe, but to be fair she'd be on a really great spot on her other tribe as well. I'm surprised the allies that know they'll be on a tribe with each other wouldn't fight harder to save her, especially since it seems like the prevailing theory is "exile" or being sent to the other civilization.
That seems to be all the ones I want to watch, so I'll comment on some of the alliances now.
Simon/Saxon/Ricky - The only reason I don't like this group was because I wanted them to clash because it would have been fun to watch. I don't hate this alliance though because I really want to see Simon and Saxon do well. I think this could be a strong group, but also the potential to totally implode on itself.
Samm/Mateusz/Allan - I think these guys are all on the same tribe, and this will be a killer alliance. I hope they stick it out because from a strategic stand point I see Samm and Allan being the players to watch. Samm just has to be careful about who he sticks with in this civilization, because if it becomes too Endure-heavy, he will be seen as the person in charge come the merge. I think by playing hard he's set himself up for a long stay unless the idols mess him up.
Poor Mikki already being shafted, I'm not surprised though, she's not the most active and can be a bit cold. Also she never talked much on call when she played Conquest. I think this will set her up decently though because it will show her who she can and can't trust. She just needs to be scooped up by someone once she gets on a tribe. Also I'm not surprised Saxon still doesn't like Mikki after Conquest. She was someone who voted him out and took a lot of joy in it. Besides Corey she was very vocal when he left, even getting that episode title when she said "Bye Saxophone" so not surprised he's wanting to cut her. I probably would be quick to throw her under the bus too if I was him considering he probably just doesn't want to be first voted out.
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Post by VIPW jamie on Jan 8, 2016 21:10:16 GMT
As head PW I may give edgic a try. MAYBE IDK WE WILL SEE
If anyone wants to work on them with me im more than happen to collaborate
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